Category Archives: Insulation

Plywood lining nearly finished (and other stuff)

Well its been a bit of a slog since the last update, but we’re nearly done with the plywood lining of the van now so thought it was time for a brief update.  We did the plywood lining on the ceiling first, then the walls, then the floor.  In hindsight, we probably should have done things the other way around, or at least the ceiling then the floor, as it would have made fitting the floor sections easier.

First bits of wall plywood going up  And the rest soon followed

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Side wall insulation nearly done

More cutting and gluing/screwing 25mm wood battens to create the framework along the walls to support the insulation…

Not much to say about this process really other than its quite time consuming!  We’re using 25x36mm battens, attached to the walls of the van using beads of Sikaflex and screwed using 4x40mm screws.  These proved to be quite hard to get into the metalwork, so our process is:

  • offer up the wood and make sure we’re comfortable with where its going
  • mark it and surrounding metal/wooden battens in lots of places/orientations to make sure we can get it back where we have it now
  • remove wood and drill pilot holes (1.5mm) through wood
  • reposition wood against metal and try to hold it firmly in place and drill through pilot holes to metal
  • remove wood, widen hole in metal to 2mm
  • put sikaflex on the metal where the wood will go
  • screw through wood until screws just poking out the other side
  • offer wood back up against metal, using the markers and the protuding screws to get it in the right place
  • press really hard against the screwdriver while slowly screwing it into the metal

After several goes, we seem to have perfected the technique!

So, here’s the current state of play, before I go to Barcelona for the weekend to meet up with Cris, who’s out there visiting her family ahead of our October departure…

Wall insulation nearly done

Roof insulation goes in

Over the past few days we’ve been cutting up some of the Celotex 25mm ‘foam’ boards and putting them up in the roof ‘framework’.  We spent some time thinking about how best to keep the van cool as we’re taking it to Africa, and whilst we’re no experts, we think what we’ve done makes sense.  To us, anyway!

The idea is that reflective insulation materials (like the bubble wrap stuff which seems quite popular) need an air space into which the heat is reflected.  As such, gluing it directly to the walls/roof means it won’t work as designed, yet seems to be a popular way of installing it. I guess that in the UK at least, reflecting heat back into the vehicle is a higher priority than keeping the heat out?  We don’t have a huge amount of confidence that a couple of thin layers of plasticky bubble wrap is going to keep us cool/warm as required so we’ve decided to install Celotex 25mm foam boards, between battens (which are needed to support the plywood).  These sit slightly away from the van walls themselves and gives us a good 3-5cm air space between the insulation and the external walls.  Yes, we lose some internal space but we’re short so hopefully it won’t matter too much 🙂

I guess only time will tell how effective our strategy will be ; we’re going to make sure the inside face of each external panel in the rear is covered in insulation and the new bulkhead we’re making (between the cab and living area) will also be insulated.  We’re hoping that by keeping the rear closed off during the day, and using reflective window blankets/covers, we’ll keep the worst of the heat out.  We did consider installing air conditioning but its very expensive (£1500 upwards) and uses a lot of power (240v AC, so you need an inverter, which we’ll have, but not sure we want to use it that heavily).  We might take a smaller, portable domestic air con unit if we think it necessary.

Anyway – installing the insulation.  We’ve cut the boards up and covered their edges with reflective tape to stop any bits of foam from coming out and generally to stop them disintegrating as we’re driving along.

Cris putting the tape on the cut edges of the Celotex boards

Cris putting the tape on the cut edges of the Celotex boards

These are then glued (Sikaflex) into place in the rectangular spaces formed by the roof battens.  To stop them pushing through to the other side (into the air space) we’ve glued small strips of 6mm plywood to act as ‘backstops’.  This required 2 sections of plywood, as we’d used 18mm thick wood for the battens and the insulation is 25mm thick.  So, small sections of 6mm ply were attached to the top side of the battens and then the longer strips of 6mm ply attached to those.  Yes, we know that 18+6 = 24 but add some glue dollops here and there and you’re pretty much at 25mm 🙂  The boards will therefore be sandwiched between these strips and the main plywood ceiling.  We’re hoping (we use that term a lot!) that the “backstops” won’t fall off, and the glue on the boards themselves will hold, otherwise they’ll be able to break free and fly around the air space 😦

As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words so:

Closeup of the plywood backing strips with spacers

Close up of insulation held in place by backstops and glue

Ready for insulation - main battens for plywood with thin backing strips of plywood

Oh and we’ve used the reflective foil tape on the underside (living area side) to attach the insulation boards to each other and the battens.

Roof insulation installed at last

Insulation is quite a time consuming process but we hope it works out for us ; walls and floor yet to do!  Worst bits?  Small bits of foam everywhere when you’re cutting the mats to size/shape, not using the right thickness battens in the first place (although it worked out ok in the end), tape sticking to itself all the time (pain in the backside and leads to much wastage), and generally quite fiddly, especially in the corners where the roof meets the walls.

Remaining frame battens and plywood floor removal

After yesterday’s traumatic cutting episode, we had a slightly easier time of things today, gluing and clamping the battens to the inside face of the window aperture.  Unfortunately the 2nd batten, which we glued last thing before calling it a day, came unstuck shortly after we removed the clamps.  We don’t know why, maybe just a case of not having applied enough glue.  After a quick bit of cleaning it went straight back on and there was no chance it was coming off again given how much Sikaflex we used 🙂

As we couldn’t do much else while the battens were being glued, we opted to remove the last remaining bit of existing ply-lining, the floor.  Or at least, try to.  Most of the screws had been soaking in WD-40 overnight which had made very little difference to some of them, so eventually we took the angle grinder to them to get the heads off and allow us to pull the plywood up.

plywood-floor-removed-2

Not too much rust damage underneath, thankfully, just the odd bit here and there where water had got between the small gaps between boards.   The screws however proved a bit harder to remove, and in the end we just used an angle grinder (cutting blade) to chop them off as close as possible to the floor and then used a grinding wheel/blade to level them off.  We had hoped to  drill through the screws or something to ensure any rusted bits had been removed but nothing seemed to penetrate the damned things so we settled on applying lots of anti-rust treatment.